Connor’s story has found its way into a mural, a documentary, and a children’s book. This episode of Almost Above Average brings those creative paths into the same conversation.

Host Chris McIntyre talks with filmmaker Kari Barber and artist and advocate Connor Fogal about The Muralist. My book, Different Like Me: Connor Can. You Can, Too., is introduced as another way to get to know Connor’s story.
Hear about the work behind the work
Kari explains how the mural became a focus for the documentary. Connor discusses the practical demands of painting a large public artwork with an adaptive headset and a small brush.
The conversation also touches on creative opportunities, making a film, and the importance of useful captions. It gives attention to the choices and practical details involved in doing the work.
The podcast version was published March 15, 2026 and runs about 34 minutes. The linked video is the publisher’s full-length upload of that episode.
Watch Kari and Connor’s conversation. You can also listen on Apple Podcasts and explore the book.